Posts by Island Man

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JW Tattoos

by bradford in

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i'm sure there are countless opinions on whether you should get a tattoo or not.

my personal view is that if you were to get one it should mean something.. anyone get a tattoo to remember their jw roots?

i was thinking of getting a tetragrammaton somewhere.

Island Man

I wonder what the elders would say if a JW got a tattoo of the JW.org logo on his chest?

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Does anyone here watch the walking dead?

by Butyoucanneverleave in

if so, what did you think about tonight's season finale?

Island Man

Ha! It's been uploaded. I'll let you know my thoughts when I'm done watching...

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Does anyone here watch the walking dead?

by Butyoucanneverleave in

if so, what did you think about tonight's season finale?

Island Man

I watch it. But I haven't seen the finale yet - it hasn't been uploaded to the pirate video streaming sites as yet.

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How are awake JWs going to deal with the life and death, Dual Power of Suicide, no blood card issue?

by Island Man in

there was a recent leak of a letter to congregations regarding a new dpa no blood card.

part of the letter reads as follows:.

as a reminder, you should provide copies of your completed advance decision document to (1) those who served as witnesses, (2) your general practitioner (doctor), and (3) your congregation secretary.

Island Man

There was a recent leak of a letter to congregations regarding a new DPA no blood card. Part of the letter reads as follows:

As a reminder, you should provide copies of your completed Advance Decision document to (1) those who served as witnesses, (2) your General Practitioner (doctor), and (3) your congregation secretary. Additionally, you may wish to keep a copy with your will and other important documents.— Prov. 22:3.

If congregation secretaries start asking awake JWs for copies of their signed Dual Power of Suicide card how will they navigate this issue?

Can a JW refuse to sign the document without being disassociated?

Are there any good excuses that can be used for not signing it and that will enable you to dodge the DA bullet?

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Does Jesus refute the Watchtower Blood prohibition?

by Terry in

this is the jerusalem council of faithful jewish christians addressing what obstacles gentile converts must hurdle to be accepted by them.

(note: this statement is a paraphrase of a much earlier law of the sons of noah.).

acts 15: "it is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the gentiles who are turning to god" (v. 19).

I think that the easiest most logical rebuttal to the blood issue is to simply point to the fact that Jehovah made blood to flow in the veins so it is not a violation of the blood law for us to use our own native blood flowing in our veins. Therefore it should also not be a violation to accept a transfusion because transfused blood is being used in the veins just as our own native blood would be used. The prohibition on blood has nothing to do with the source of the blood and everything to do with the use to which the blood is being put. Using it as food is wrong, but using it in the veins as God created it to be used, cannot be wrong. Common sense 101.

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Just because the JW'S are wrong doesnt mean theres no god.

by atomant in

l;ve been giving this some serious consideration lately.l dont have all the answers no one does.we are all entitled to our opinions.l certainly dont believe in evolution as lve researched that subject extensively.lt's important to believe in something even if its for mental health.l believe everything happens for a reason.l also believe if we all live as close to the 10 commandments as possible this world would be a far better place to live and no one can argue with that.

Island Man

Just because the JW's being wrong does not negate the possible existence of a god, does not mean there is a god.

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True or False .... The JW Religion was Started by Amateur Self Avowed Bible Theologians ?

by Finkelstein in

.....who were able to propagate their self devised bible theology by utilizing a printing plant which they themselves were the head editorial writers .

c t russell and the man to follow him j rutherford, were both not academically trained bible theologians but they certainly were inspired businessmen to the fact, charlatans of their own era and time.. the return of jesus christ and a new world order to replace an old wicked world order, was just too much of a marketable and tangible concept for those men to just leave alone.

they exploited the already existing belief in the bible already structured within the population to where they preached their created version of the gospel, the rest is now history as well their many self devised albeit commercially appealing failed doctrines .

Island Man

True

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The Christian GOD / Old Testament GOD , one and the same right? A GOD of Love ?

by smiddy in

and god is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow.. in other words he is unchangeable.. what a bloodthirsty god he was in the old testament., at his command killing old men young men women and children by the sword , a two edged sword i might add in some cases.cutting both ways.. put yourself in that situation for a minute , either as a victim or the executioner.

can you imagine piercing some other human with a two edged sword ?

especially if they were a child ?

Island Man

Do not eat poisonous plants

And how exactly did the first humans centuries ago, happening upon a plant producing delicious-looking berries determine that it was poisonous? How do they make that determination without a life being lost?

What kind of sadistic God would make plants for food and invite man to eat of them all, then make some of them poisonous? Answer that.

Theists love to point to the beautiful things in the natural world as evidence of a loving creator. But there's also lots of ugly sadisitic things in the natural world too. Theists conveniently turn a blind eye to these.

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Real Prophecy vs. Watchtower Prophecies

by Perry in

while we had our eyes fixated on our "one-time" idol the watchtower and their false prophecies like the generation of 1914 that wouldn't pass away, 1975 etc.

; a number of real prophecies were unfolding.

we just weren't taught to look for them.

Island Man

A true, verifiable prophecy should be:

Specific - applicable to one and only one unambiguous fulfillment. The moment a prophecy is vague enough to be applicable to any one of a number of events then it suspiciously reeks of the "cold reading" tactic used by psychics.
Not a likely event that one can reasonably guess would happen. For example, if you throw a ball in the air then you can't claim as a prophecy, your prediction that it will fall to the ground. Likewise predicting there would be wars in the future is not a prophecy - it's common sense.
Must be proven to have been written before the predicted event rather than being a historical report dishonestly written as if its a prophecy.

It also bears noting that the NT's claims of prophecies fulfilled by Jesus carry no weight as there's no way to actually verify that the things written in the NT actually occurred. The NT gospel accounts could be fictional or highly embellished with the writers falsely claiming that Jesus did x in fulfillment of such and such scripture in the OT. Without proof that the claims of the NT are true, none of the supposed OT prophecies claimed to have been fulfilled by Jesus have any weight.

Also when one objectively reads some of the supposed OT prophecies claimed to have been fulfilled by Jesus, it becomes apparent they weren't actually prophecies at all. NT writers twisted obscure OT passages that had absolutely no prophetic significance whatsoever and made them out to be prophecies fulfilled by Jesus.

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Real Prophecy vs. Watchtower Prophecies

by Perry in

while we had our eyes fixated on our "one-time" idol the watchtower and their false prophecies like the generation of 1914 that wouldn't pass away, 1975 etc.

; a number of real prophecies were unfolding.

we just weren't taught to look for them.

Island Man

I can't imagine how the prophecies regarding the restoration of the nation of Israel could be more specific.

It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. What was written in the OT was widely known by Jews and they actively worked toward its fulfillment. The "prophecy" encouraged the Jews to fulfill it. There's nothing miraculous in that.

It would be like a child being told from young by his parents whom he loves and respects dearly, that he will become a doctor when he grows up. The child internalizes that message, causing it to shape his goals and achievements and he works towards it and it becomes a reality. His parents weren't inspired prophets. Their "prediction" served to encourage him to work toward it becoming a reality and it does.